Tribunal Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia

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1 Tuesday, 25 February, 2003

2 [Open session]

3 --- Upon commencing at 9.10 a.m.

4 [The accused entered court]

5 JUDGE AGIUS: Good morning, Madam Registrar, could you call the

6 case, please.

7 THE REGISTRAR: Good morning, Your Honours, case number

8 IT-99-36-T, the Prosecutor versus Radoslav Brdjanin.

9 JUDGE AGIUS: I thank you. Mr. Brdjanin, do I take it that you

10 can follow the proceedings in a language that you can understand?

11 THE ACCUSED: [Interpretation] Good morning, Your Honour. Yes, I

12 can follow in a language I understand.

13 JUDGE AGIUS: Appearances for the Prosecution?

14 MS. RICHTEROVA: Good morning, Anna Richterova and Sureta Chana

15 assisted by Hasan Younis case manager.

16 JUDGE AGIUS: Thank you and good morning to you. Appearances for

17 Radoslav Brdjanin?

18 MR. ACKERMAN: Your Honour, I'm John Ackerman. I'm here with

19 Brian Roberts. I notice that the transcript is not working. I'm getting

20 no transcript on either of --

21 JUDGE AGIUS: No.

22 MR. ACKERMAN: Of the machines here.

23 JUDGE AGIUS: Do you require it or do you want us to stop until

24 it's being received?

25 MR. ACKERMAN: I just want to make sure that there is a transcript

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1 being developed in some way because the whole system requires it, whether

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3 JUDGE AGIUS: I would imagine that the transcript is being -- is

4 happening because it's something that is done by hand.

5 MR. ACKERMAN: That's a French transcript Your Honour, over here.

6 That would be the English transcript over there. But I don't know -- I'm

7 just concerned that we have a transcript of this session at some point.

8 JUDGE AGIUS: We have a transcript, I'm assured that we do have a

9 transcript. You just can't see it on your the monitor and on the

10 LiveNote, that's all.

11 MR. ACKERMAN: That's a potential problem but I'm not going to

12 make issue about it.

13 JUDGE AGIUS: Any problem from your side, Madam Richterova?

14 MS. RICHTEROVA: Not in respect to the transcript. Of course it's

15 not working here as well. I have only two very, very short issues. One

16 is identification issue. I used one document with the witness yesterday

17 and I didn't mention the identification number of that document because I

18 didn't request to exhibit that document. So it was the booklet of

19 employment history, and I just want to state that the identification

20 number of this document for any further use is 0117-2470, and 0117-2471.

21 This is one issue.

22 The other one issue I would like to go to the private session.

23 JUDGE AGIUS: Yes. Let's go into private session, please.

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18 JUDGE AGIUS: Yes, sorry, could you repeat, please.

19 THE INTERPRETER: The interpreters can work without a transcript

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21 JUDGE AGIUS: Okay. So I suggest we get the witness and -- does

22 that cause you any problems, Mr. Ackerman?

23 MR. ACKERMAN: I didn't hear what they said, Your Honour I was on

24 the wrong channel.

25 JUDGE AGIUS: Me too. I was on the wrong channel too. The

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1 interpreters said that they can work without the transcript.

2 MR. ACKERMAN: No problem.

3 JUDGE AGIUS: Yes, let's go into closed session now, please.

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13 [Open session]

14 JUDGE AGIUS: So for the reasons that I explained and we discussed

15 earlier, today's sitting stops here. The understanding, Madam Richterova,

16 please, and Mr. Ackerman, the understanding is as follows: You are to

17 liaise with Ms. Ann Sutherland to see whether she has contacted

18 Ms. Korner, whether there is a feedback from Ms. Korner. If there hasn't

19 been a feedback as yet, please try to obtain some kind of feedback before

20 11.00. At 11.00 we will meet in my chamber, please, Defence and

21 Prosecution, plus Ms. Martinez from the OLAD office downstairs and we will

22 thrash out all the problems that we have, and plan for the weeks and

23 months ahead. Okay?

24 MR. ACKERMAN: Your Honour, you will need to arrange for someone

25 to fetch me from the lobby in a few minutes before 11.00 so that I can

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1 make it to your chambers because I have no other way to get there.

2 JUDGE AGIUS: From the lobby, Mr. Ackerman?

3 MR. ACKERMAN: I think that's the most appropriate place.

4 JUDGE AGIUS: At five to 11.00 please fetch Mr. Ackerman and bring

5 him to my chambers. I thank you.

6 --- Whereupon the hearing adjourned at

7 10.13 a.m., to be reconvened on Wednesday,

8 the 26th day of February, 2003, at 9.00 a.m.

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